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A Conversation with
Barbara Marx Hubbard
(The complete Flip interview, with only minor edits,
not found in the book)
Barbara Marx Hubbard (www.barbaramarxhubbard.com)
has been a pioneer in positive options for the future
of humanity for forty years. A public speaker, author,
and social innovator, she is president and executive
director of the Foundation for Conscious Evolution.
She has been instrumental in the founding of many
future-oriented organizations, including the World
Future Society, New Dimensions Radio, Global Family,
Women of Vision in Action, the Foundation for the
Future, and the Association for Global New Thought.
Barbara was one of the original directors of the
Center for Soviet American Dialogue and served as
a citizen diplomat during the late 1980s. She has
written many books, including The Hunger of Eve, The
Evolutionary Journey, The Revelation: Our Crisis Is
a Birth, Conscious Evolution: Awakening the Power
of Our Social Potential, Emergence: The Shift from
Ego to Essence, and Ten Steps to the Universal Human.
Barbara told us that her worldview began changing
at an early age, when she witnessed a traumatic turning
point in human history. “My flip was in 1945
when the U.S. dropped the atomic bombs on Japan. I
was fifteen and I suddenly saw that we were going
to gain so much power that we could destroy our world.
And the question that came to me was: what is the
meaning of our new power that’s good? In my
search to answer this, to make a very long story short,
I began to see that the meaning of our power is the
conscious evolution of our species on the one hand,
or devolution and extinction on the other.
“When I say ‘conscious evolution’
I mean evolving our own consciousness from passively
receiving the way things are to actively guiding ourselves
and our social evolution. I think this is the evolution
from unconscious devolution to conscious choice. We’re
facing a mounting whole-system crisis because every
single social system is breaking down. So there are
individual flips, individual innovations, and individual
breakthroughs in every system. You have to look at
the crisis as evolutionary stress. And problems are
evolutionary drivers. Nature forms whole systems in
response to these crises, or the species goes extinct.
“There are, everyday, more and more people
waking up to the crisis. It’s on the front page
of Time Magazine, it’s in the news. People are
concerned, even pessimistic; they’re wondering
if our species can survive. It’s becoming harder
and harder to trust the current system. The average
person doesn’t have to be a visionary futurist
to see that we need a better way.
“Bureaucratic structures aren’t up to
our current challenges, because they’re organized
around separation and competition. And the problem
extends beyond political parties or administrations.
We can’t really look to the Democrats to be
the living alternative to the current structures,
because they’re imbedded in them too. Many citizens
tend not to be involved in politics because it doesn’t
seem to make a difference. We see these structural
breakdowns, and our only hope is for a new structure
to emerge – one that’s a partnership model,
not a dominator model – a system of connectivity,
of co-creativity. All of these breakdowns are forcing
us to either evolve as a species or render ourselves
extinct.
“My metaphor for this whole process is the
birth of a species capable of co-evolving with Nature
and co-creating with Spirit… a species that
has been gestating, in great beings like Buddha and
Jesus, for five thousand years. Historically, the
average individual couldn’t fully experience
that expanded consciousness, so we formed religions
and dogmas and priest classes. But within our species
today, there are people whose consciousness moves
toward whole organism consciousness, people who feel
connected from within through the heart, the kind
of people that have been doing the light work of our
generation and have been experiencing the inner spiritual
evolution. These people are the emergent Humanity,
and I think that they represent an irresistible force.
“Evolution is constantly producing higher consciousness
and greater freedom through more complex order. There
is a great deal of pressure to evolve into this more
universal species, as I call it. On an individual
level, it’s available to everyone and it’s
a free choice for everyone. You can’t be forced
to evolve and you can’t be forced to enter evolution.
But I believe what’s happening is that millions
of us are bringing the gods home internally. We’re
becoming expressions of the creative intention of
the Universe as individuals. When we do that, there
is a self-rewarding quality to our actions. We no
longer feel completely trapped by our conditions.
We feel causal, even when we’re not making a
huge impact, and we resonate with others doing the
same. I call this ‘the emerging communion of
pioneering souls.’
“Clearly, it’s no longer enough to merely
point out the failure of our bureaucracies. We must
each ask ourselves what this crisis is pressing us
to do that isn’t being done – that can’t
be done – by the bureaucracy. The true call
is for connectivity of all civil society, which can
then take a new leading position. And we’re
almost there. Most of us are not as aware of the breakthroughs
as the breakdowns, because most of the breakthroughs
are emergent and the mass media doesn’t pick
them up. We must facilitate and accelerate these emerging
breakthroughs. We must find ways to become connected,
synergistic, and cooperative among ourselves.
“This is nothing less than a call to regenerate
our planet. The planetary body itself is under stress.
It’s been tortured by the rise of our industrial
societies. Our social systems must change in order
to restore our home. We are expressions of our Mother
Earth evolving. Birth is a very good image, because
birth is not easy and it doesn’t guarantee you
that the mother or child will live. But there is a
tendency for life to prevail.
“I call myself – not an optimist or a
pessimist – but a potentialist. I don’t
want to be a visionary anymore. I mean, I have a vision.
But the much more important thing right now is noticing
what’s happening – the breakdowns and
breakthroughs – and participating in the latter.
“What I refer to as the ‘self evolution’
is happening very, very rapidly. It’s as if
a core of Intelligence has begun permeating the inner
spirit of millions. That transcendent experience of
the divine evolutionary impulse is often felt as a
yearning to create and express our deeper selves in
action. Each one of us is being motivated by a Universal
process that individuates as you and me. And when
we say ‘yes’ to that process, it turns
us on. We feel a passionate desire to join - not our
genes, but our genius, our unique creativity –
to birth the greater self in each of us. We’re
being motivated from within by a great force. The
joining of Creator and creature is co-creation. And
this is the spiritual maturation of our species. The
path of the co-creator is, for me, the fulfillment
of all religions. As we learn to incarnate the process
of creation as our own expression, this process begins
to activate in us a new vitality.
“My own body is aging, but my spirit is rising.
My vitality is rising. My creativity is rising. My
intuition is that Woman is entering a new life cycle.
We can’t continue to populate and pollute and
use up nonrenewable resources. Woman, particularly
postmenopausal Woman, is coming into her own during
this planetary crisis. All of the Women’s Movements
have led up to this. We are free, and we are beyond
our childbearing years, and we have this energy. The
postmenopausal Woman is vital for the survival of
our species. She has a different programming and she’s
always seeking what we call the ‘Regenerative
Man,’ who has somehow awakened from within and
can bring the masculine divine creativity into this.”
Barbara recent received an award for her work introducing
a bill in Congress to create a Department of Peace.
“The Department of Peace is the rallying point
to a whole movement. What it’s calling for is
the voice of peace and non-violence at the highest
level of government. If it works it would mean that
the Secretary of Peace would be in on the meetings
about violence and war, and that voice would be heard
by whoever is the president of the United States.
“The state department only follows the foreign
policy of the administration. So the Department of
Peace would have a special mandate to remind everyone
in power of questions like, ‘How could this
problem be solved through nonviolence, through conflict
resolution, through cooperation?’ That voice
is not currently heard at the highest levels of government.
But I see the possibility of even the military realizing
it cannot produce security by force alone. That’s
clear in Iraq right now, where we have a very powerful
military with no equal in the world bogged down by
an insurgency. We have the ability to destroy any
enemy, but we can’t build peace. We can’t
build or rebuild a culture with our military. So I’m
planning to meet with people in the military to see
if there could be a sacred alliance between the peace
movement and the new forces for security in the United
States. The people in the military are so sophisticated,
but they have to have a new strategy, a new purpose
of providing security and peace. Their skills and
capacities are vitally needed for the purpose of restoring
the earth.
“I, who have been a visionary for thirty years,
am suddenly one of the most practical people around.
Because I’m saying, ‘well let’s
do synergistic convergence events.’ SYNCON and
the Peace Room are two tools we could look at as the
evolution of democracy and self-governance. Using
my website, I’m going to create a communion
of pioneering souls called ‘The Evolutionary
Edge,’ and I’m going to connect up as
many people as I can. I think there is a tipping point,
and as the crisis deepens, the tipping point gets
closer. It’s nonlinear because all the different
strands that are evolving converge simultaneously.
Everything that rises converges, and I believe we’re
in a zone of convergence right now that is way beyond
human manipulation. It’s the same ordering process
of nature that got us from subatomic particles to
here.
“Now that’s a mighty power, however you
want to name it.”
And it’s a flip on the grandest of scales.
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