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A Conversation with
Barnet Bain
(The complete Flip interview, with only minor edits,
not found in the book)
Barnet is a screenwriter and producer who has earned
a reputation for creating innovative projects celebrating
the human spirit. He produced and co-wrote the screenplay
for The Celestine Prophecy (www.celestineprophecymovie.com).
His production of What Dreams May Come garnered two
Academy Award nominations, winning the Oscar for Best
Visual Effects.
Wisdom Media Group recently presented Barnet with
the WISDOM WorldView Award for using media and entertainment
to raise spiritual awareness and make a significant
contribution to the betterment of humanity. We asked
Barnet just how accurately Hollywood mirrors reality.
“Hollywood is inside of you and me, says Barnet.
“The movies are not a shortcut to wisdom. What
they are is an incredibly powerful tool to access
our subconscious and our inner spirit. So when we
look at entertainment or newscasts, what we see isn’t
outside of us. It’s a reflection of something
that’s going on inside of us as the observers.
And it is an opportunity to look deeper into the self.
Whenever one feels an intense reaction to violence,
depravity, or irresponsibility in entertainment, it’s
almost always an indication that it’s our own
shadow that we are not at peace with.
“People only begin to ask big questions once
their basic needs are met and they have the luxury
of self-reflection. In the filmmaking community today,
there are a lot of very good, smart people. Their
basic needs are met, and they are turning their thoughts
to the meaning of life, their place in it, how to
contribute and make their mark.
“The public can’t get much out of films
about consciousness unless those films speak to the
viewers’ own empowerment and the empowerment
of others. Hollywood has to empower people where they
are in their own lives. We want viewers to come away,
not necessarily entertained, but enriched in their
understanding and compassion.
“However, there’s a little distinction
that I think is important to make. I am not a fundamentalist
Christian, so when The Passion of the Christ came
out, that was not a film that moved me in my heart
in the same way as it would move a believer. But it
is symbolic of the same move towards wholeness and
connection that is afoot in the world. The search
for meaning animates films like The Passion of the
Christ as well as The Celestine Prophecy. It’s
arising out of the same energetic principle. Viewers
are empowered in different ways, but the underlying
energy is to empower people. For the tens of millions
of people who went to see The Passion of the Christ,
that was a deeply affecting spiritual experience.
“But to have a negative reaction to a movie
like The Passion of the Christ – and many did
– provides an opportunity to look at one’s
own shadow. They don’t even have to live through
the suffering they’re seeing. The just have
to say, ‘We all have a tremendous amount of
suffering in our lives, and we all have created many
adaptive psychological structures in order to deny
that suffering.’ So when we see it come up in
the world, or in entertainment, we have lots of judgments
about it. There are others who have perhaps a different
take on that. I’ve heard the Dali Lama speak
to this quite powerfully, quite beautifully. From
the sound of that conversation, he doesn’t have
the same response out of his own shadow to a movie
like The Passion of the Christ.
“You also have to realize that a movie doesn’t
have to be about spiritual beings to evoke a spiritual
experience. You watch The Godfather, and your heart
is moved by the complexity of one character who can
be so evil and also have so many other dimensions.
You understand that life is not cut and dried; it’s
not black and white. That is powerful because that’s
what makes us human. It’s humbling. Or watch
a home makeover show that chronicles people functioning
at their finest, with open hearts and compassion.
That can be very powerful. For that matter, what is
it about Shakespeare that persists? His plays are
the most profound body of spiritual teachings in the
history of human creativity. They speak to and inform
about the human spirit. Greek tragedies are the same.
“Have you seen Crash? Spirituality doesn’t
have to be pretty. It doesn’t always have to
be polite, or politically correct, or even non-violent.
It has to be honest and revealing. I don’t feel
obliged to make my own films all ‘nice’
and non-confrontational. My personal goal is to model
relationships with as much authenticity as possible.
I am on my own spiritual journey and one expression
of that journey is my filmmaking. We put certain kinds
of behaviors on film, and people are going to emulate
them – for better or worse. Conscious filmmaking
is about choosing to model the most powerful behaviors
and choices, out of service to others. We know that
infinitely more powerful solutions and models are
yet to come, but each film represents the most powerful
experiences and accomplishments of our lives thus
far.”
So the flip is both ongoing and very personal? “The
bar is constantly being raised, and there are a greater
number of both viewers and filmmakers who want authenticity.
More people than ever before are consciously allowing
themselves to be transformed and impacted by these
entertainments. I don’t believe that the Flip
is driven by a critical mass of folks who awaken one
morning with altruism in their hearts and compassion
in their deeds. I believe the flip is taking place
one human being at a time. We’re creating it
as individuals. It’s about consciousness and
having the privilege to reflect and expand one’s
self. That expansion can include previously hidden
dimensions such as our hurts, angers, and disappointments.
As we begin to explore our shadows, it changes us.
We make different choices. We have different thoughts.
We begin to shift our beliefs and our attitudes and
the way we interact with the world. Our most powerful
response is always the one that comes from our fullest
self-awareness.”
We asked about the specific challenges of depicting
spiritual transformations – such as those in
The Celestine Prophecy – on screen. “Putting
a camera on a spiritual transformation it’s
sort of like putting a camera on somebody falling
in love. It’s an internal, subjective experience.
A novel can go on for page after page, dissecting
a character’s experience and inner dialog. Filmmaking
doesn’t operate that way. But what a movie can
do, better than any other medium, is model behaviors
and interactions. Rather than trying to create a pretty
picture of a spiritual experience, we concentrated
on relational dynamics that empower people with more
freedom, awareness and choice. That is the fertile
ground for spiritual experience. We wanted to create
a model that viewers could understand and refer to
when faced with similar challenges in their own lives.
We wanted to expand their menu of potential responses
to include choices that open up a more generous, gracious
reality.
“Films are a particularly potent spiritual
tool for plumbing the depths of our psyches and consciousness.
Films can help us heal our shadows by casting light
on our denied suffering and judgments… as well
as our strengths, powers, joys, and gifts. Films can
help us replace limiting thought patterns with more
expansive ones. The flip is people beginning to understand
that it’s all spiritual and that everything
in the world is a spiritual experience. Films can
help us gain perspectives like that.”
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The Flip, by Jared Rosen and David Rippe, illuminates
a clear path to a vibrant enlightened world where
millions of people already live and thrive. It describes
in vivid detail and real examples evidence of an upside
down world in decay and a Right Side Up world of authentic
beings bright with possibility.
The Flip is an owner’s manual for the twenty-first
century full of insights, conversations with recognized
experts, thought leaders, and visionaries, and actionable
exercises and tips you can use to begin your own personal
flip.
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