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A Conversation with Rabbi
Zalman Schachter-Shalomi
(The complete Flip interview, with only minor edits,
not found in the book)
Rabbi Schachter-Shalomi (www.rzlp.org)
is the sage of a worldwide movement of Jewish renewal
who encourages a meeting of his tradition with the
psychological, ecological, and spiritual revolutions
of our age. As the founder of the P’nai Or (Children
of the Light) religious fellowship and the rabbinic
chair of ALEPH: Alliance for Jewish Renewal, Rabbi
Schachter-Shalomi has inspired and guided a movement
for an observant, deeply traditional Judaism that
is at the same time gender-equal, environmentally
aware (he coined the phrase “eco-kosher”),
nonhierarchical, and grounded in renewed liturgy.
We asked the rabbi if he believes there is a spiritual
flip underway. “Most people want an epiphany,
but awareness doesn’t strike like lightning.
It dawns gradually. Since the age of 16, I’ve
experienced an incremental growth in my own awareness
of what it means to be in the presence of the living
God. And at this point in our history, that translates
into humanity’s relationship to Earth. When
you go deep into meditation, you can arrive at the
place where you can feel and hear the pain of the
planet. The Earth is sick and has emphysema as far
as the atmosphere is concerned; blood poisoning as
far as the water tables are concerned. The planet
is a good planet, and if we were to live in a way
that would allow it to heal, then all of us would
be happier. So the issue is not so much transformation
as healing. The first step is a change in our awareness,
to realize that we are not at the center of everything,
but rather, the planet is the center and we are like
cells of that great organism.
“One thing any individual can do is find time
to be disconnected from the onslaught of the media.
We are constantly barraged by what the media are demanding
and telling us that we never connect with our soul.
That’s why I’m so excited about our Shabbat.
If you have a Shabbat where you don’t turn on
the TV and you don’t make phone calls and you
stay in a place where you can be in touch with your
soul, that makes a great deal of difference. I feel
it’s not so much what you do in meditation as
it is the fact that you’re not faced with the
barrage of the media. I don’t think people can
wake up as long as they’re in the trance. They’re
constantly in the shopping mall mentality which urges
us all to consume, consume, consume at any price.
The media get pushed by their advertisers, and the
advertisers want to push goods; they are not interested
in people who can get along with less. The same thing
is happening constantly in the political arena –
spend, spend, spend. ‘Don’t think for
yourselves; buy what you are being spoon-fed.’
Good news doesn’t make the headlines much. People
can’t break the trance because it is so global,
so encompassing. But what they can do is disconnect
from it for a while.
“So many things in our lives today are absolutely
good and wonderful, yet so many of us are depressed.
Why should we be depressed? Because we know the world
is depressed. And in some ways it looks like we still
have some miles to go before we get to the place where
it clears.
“On the other hand, there’s already a
certain kind of dawning taking place. I see it in
the way that Jewish renewal has become important to
people, and there are so many other ways today in
which people are doing good. Some people get turned
on by Madonna, and some people get turned on by the
Dalai Lama. It’s not an issue of right or wrong
inspiration. The whole point is for people to wake
up and escape that trance. Whoever gets to them, I
am for it, as long as something happens to raise their
awareness. ‘Lift up your eyes, and see what
is above.’ And then the question becomes, ‘how
is it going to be on the ground where people actually
live?’ And I think it is so beautiful to see
people paying attention to the things that require
attention. Whenever I see these people in action,
I feel very, very excited. I believe it is an evolution.
“But you know what? I don’t think it’s
going to be something that happens by itself. I don’t
think we can rest on our laurels. There’s a
possibility that we won’t be able to win the
race. Will destruction come or will we wake up collectively
first? We have to exchange our old cosmology for one
that is friendlier to life and to the planet. That’s
why I am so happy that you’re doing this book,
because the more people who become aware that they
have to enter into the flip, the better things will
be for the planet. There can’t be production
at any cost. And there can’t be consumption
at any cost. There has to be sustainability. If we
can manage to get to that, I think we will all make
it. And if we can’t, then I think it’s
a dire situation ahead of us.”
The rabbi believes that we can find the wisdom we
need across the generations. “I think our mother,
the Earth, is making us aware of the needs that she
has and one of the needs that she has is for us to
act on our wisdom. Elders are the wisdom keepers.
Yet the wisdom of the past cannot handle the complexity
of our life today. You take a look and see how kids
take to computers, for instance, and it’s really
amazing. They can handle a lot more complexity than
we can. And I think that’s a wonderful thing.
There is an arousing. There are children coming down
to Earth; they speak of them as the Indigo Children.
And that’s just wonderful. There is a new spiritual
sensibility emerging, but if you have ever seen a
butterfly trying to get out of the chrysalis, it’s
an agony, a struggle. It’s like a birth. And
that’s why in Judaism we speak of this as the
birth pangs of the messiah. If you collaborate with
it, it goes more smoothly.”
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The Flip, by Jared Rosen and David Rippe, illuminates
a clear path to a vibrant enlightened world where
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down world in decay and a Right Side Up world of authentic
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